Fit true to size? Or drop in length and go up in width?

it's not true to size. Go to an AE store and use that Brannock device and try some on. Sizing is nothing like what you wear with sneakers. They run 1-1.5 size larger and narrower than your sneakers. For ex., I wear a 9 men and 7.4 X-wide in Adidas/Nike and AE respectively.

Are these firsts or seconds quality?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "firsts or seconds quality". I'm going to answer the question as if you are asking whether they are what you would find at the retail company store, or at an outlet. As stated earlier the craftsmanship is very apparent (my other dress shoes are Johnston and Murphy so I'm going off of that standard) and I took a very close look at the shoes inside and out before trying them on. The shoes were in perfect condition so I'd say they are of firsts-quality.

I don't understand the size chart, what is the difference between a size 8.5 b(n) and an 8.5 2e?

B or b(n) is two times narrower than A standard D size or Medium (normal). A 2E, is on the other end wider than D by the power of 2. These are on the true to a bit narrow for my likes. So order accordingly. Beautiful shoe/nice leather. You do get what you pay. Look at "To Boot New York" brand for a step above this but little narrower also good buy for your money.

I have very flat feet and will need to remove the insole and replace it with one that better accommodates my foot. Can the insole be removed?

No, the insole doesn’t come out. It appears to be glued in.

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👔 Step into success with every stride.

BUILT TO LAST - Premium welted construction ensures your investment stands the test of time and trends.
LEATHER CARE READY - Maintain that fresh, polished look with Allen Edmonds leather lotion for lasting softness.
PERSONALIZED COMFORT - Cork footbed adapts uniquely to your foot shape for all-day support and confidence.
CLASSIC CAP TOE ELEGANCE - Effortlessly sharp style that commands respect in any boardroom or event.
VERSATILE PROFESSIONAL FIT - Classic Fit that’s true to size, perfect for dressing up or down with ease.

The Allen Edmonds Men's Park Avenue Oxford is a meticulously crafted leather dress shoe featuring a timeless cap-toe design and durable welted construction. Its cork footbed custom-molds to your foot for personalized comfort, while the classic fit ensures a perfect, professional look. Ideal for the discerning professional seeking style, durability, and all-day wearability.

Specifications

ASIN	B000H16HY0
ASIN	B079JKNM2S
Best Sellers Rank	2,043,997 in Fashion ( See Top 100 in Fashion ) 3,919 in Men's Lace-Ups
Brand	Allen Edmonds
Closure Type	Lace-Up
Colour	Black
Customer Reviews	4.2 4.2 out of 5 stars (169)
Customer reviews	4.2 4.2 out of 5 stars (169)
Date First Available	24 Nov. 2009
Department	Men's
Global Trade Identification Number	00745195003749
Has Shoe Adjustability	Yes
Heel Type	Flat
Insole Material	Leather
Is discontinued by manufacturer	No
Item Weight	52 Ounces
Item model number	2179
Manufacturer	Allen Edmonds
Manufacturer	Allen Edmonds
Model Name	Park Avenue
Model number	5615
Outer Material Type	Leather
Package Dimensions	30.48 x 20.32 x 10.16 cm; 508.02 g
Pattern	Solid
Season	Autumn-Winter
Shoe Height Map	ankle-high
Shoe Type	Oxford
Sole Material	Leather
Sport Type	Golf
Strap Type	Lace-Up
Style Name	Park Avenue
Subject Character	Occupational professional
Toe Style	Cap Toe
UPC	745195003749
Water Resistance Level	Not Water Resistant
material-type	Leather

Reviews

A**R

Five Stars

I got exactly what I expected, including the color. Thank you

3.04.2017

A**R

Fits as expected, absolutely beautiful. Would buy again in another color

20.11.2019

S**O

Uso queste scarpe da moltissimi anni per cui conosco la pregevole qualita'. La sorpresa è stata di trovarle in Amazon a prezzo conveniente senza problemi di importazione.

27.12.2024

W**A

Returned immediately. The shoes were slightly different sizes even they were both said they were 8.5 regular, and there were multiple flaws in the leather, with dyeing problems and frayed edges on the soles. The worst part? The two brown colours didn't even match! Not even two different shades of the same brown, but actually different browns. Like, mahogany and chili or something like that. I should've taken a picture but I was so razzed I packed them up right away and sent them back. Terrible.

26.03.2022

P**D

Superb in fit, quality of leather, workmanship, and finish. I intended to purchase a set of business oxfords appropriate for very high level business and professional situations, and the highly respected Allen Edmonds shoes met that exacting standard. When you are paying the price for shoes appropriate for those work and social environments it is refreshing to know that Edmond's product fully meets that demand. Fine product and good value for the money.

2.04.2017

J**Y

The Allen Edmond shoes were covered in scuff marks and smelled like cigarette smoke. Sent them right back in disgust.

18.02.2022

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